Comic Las Lindas #525: Semblance of Freedom

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MrAMP

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I had a suspicion that Rachael knew a few secret areas here and there during her travels. heck, she probably has the lay of the land, especially at Prism University if memory serves correctly. I also suspect that this is Rachael's way of showing Miles his version of his "freedom."
 

Lumaria

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So Rachel people watched planes while she was a thieving homeless kidnapper, we now know her not so criminal hobby. Still not sure how this isnt some non sequitur build up of the interactions prior to that. This is suppose to make Miles not want his idea of freedom or less of an asshole? At best all I see is a little history lesson at the end of the day to wrap up a story arc. Still not sure how Rachel can act the top cat when her past antics dwarf Miles' perverse escapades. I really enjoy Mile's character but it seems like whenever he is the focus of something he gets shit on, really what did he come out of this with? Rachel and Sarah liked planes, Miles knows not to tell people who he fucked even if he feels guilty, and Rachel thinks he a self absorbed assholes. Even if he stays on good terms with her because plot demands or he is to infatuated with Rachel he stays narrow minded the only change I see is he gave a gift and went to an event. Poor guy just needs to get the idea that there are tons of fish in the sea, but the farm has polluted waters.
 
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. I also suspect that this is Rachael's way of showing Miles his version of his "freedom."
This is driving me crazy. It's like he can't just go out and get another job.

Yeah just taking an airplane and living as a pilot might be a dumb idea if he doesn't account for fuel, hangar rent, maintenance, etc. but seriously he had a life before Mora brought him to the farm. This makes it sound like he has no choice, it's either stay there or become homeless.
 
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Semblance of freedom mmm you made me think of rwby there hehe. Now hang on I thought thought Rachael was taking Miles there to show him how bad his free life would be, I know she said it was shitty but it doesn't look so bad there. I'm think somebody mentioned this earlier but Miles has already live a free life as a homeless didn't he? Why does it sound like he hasn't? On a side note with that Jet landing I guess Ambar is dropping by for a visit, maybe to show minos and the others her new baby?
 

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It could be Rach is trying to get Miles to think about what the cost of his freedom could be (her past homeless life) while comparing it to what he could achieve if he would just put some honest effort into trying to make something of himself (Ambar's airport). Rachael had freedom, with her only responsibility being taking care of Sarah and herself. It was however a hard life. Miles may feel underappreciated at the farm but at least he has a roof over his head, he's well fed, and a steady job. Rach, in showing Miles the airport and sharing a bit about her past, may be trying to get Miles to realize that he doesn't really have it that bad and that maybe he could do even better if he would just get serious about pursuing his dream.
 
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This is suppose to make Miles not want his idea of freedom or less of an asshole? At best all I see is a little history lesson at the end of the day to wrap up a story arc.
Rachael's trying to show Miles that Sarah and her were homeless and had to make due with what they had, when they were living as vagabonds. In Rachael's mind, Miles just thinks he wants freedom. Freedom sounds fulfilling on paper, but being 'free' also meant that Sarah and her didn't have always have food, money, or shelter, and she's trying to help him to see that.

I really enjoy Mile's character but it seems like whenever he is the focus of something he gets shit on, really what did he come out of this with? Rachel and Sarah liked planes, Miles knows not to tell people who he fucked even if he feels guilty, and Rachel thinks he a self absorbed assholes.
Rachael's blunt reality check was supposed to make him reevaluate his personality and how he goes about himself. Miles' kind actions towards her made her more willing to call him a friend and be open with him, rather than just ignore him or belittle him constantly -- like she usually does.

Also, I think you're also looking at the landing strip/airport bit too literally and not considering the fact that they were homeless and went there because it had a view, which was one small comfort while they were living on the streets.
 

Lumaria

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I just think its rather silly to think Rachel has a idea of what freedom is when pretty much at the start of her homeless deliquesce she got Sarah to take care of. She knows what maybe minor child care and responsibility is about but does she know what freedom tastes like? I don't think so anyways. Trying to make her the youthful sage seems to fall flat when she was trying to get the D from Minos. Different situation yes but she is just as mortal and stupid as the next young adult if not worse. If anything I think its actually Rachel who is growing more than Miles as she finds that her sh*t stinks just like everyone elses.

I still doubt after this experience Miles would be opening up to anyone about his regrets or deeper thoughts. This may just make him more the stereotypical male. Hardened, less emotion, and driven to some lofty ambition.
 

RazielsShadow

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Are we just going to forget the part where Miles can go out and get another job?

I mean COME ON he got a job working with Taffy after Mora slept with him and then threw him out. Granted Taffy helped him out in that but still. He looked like he was doing fine when he was first introduced in the comic.

Why is it either 1) work at LL or 2) starve in the streets? Am I missing something?
 

Radagast

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Are we just going to forget the part where Miles can go out and get another job?

I mean COME ON he got a job working with Taffy after Mora slept with him and then threw him out. Granted Taffy helped him out in that but still. He looked like he was doing fine when he was first introduced in the comic.

Why is it either 1) work at LL or 2) starve in the streets? Am I missing something?
...Best I can tell, nobody's forgetting it. I don't think anybody's saying that Miles's options are "stay on the farm or be homeless". On the contrary, a job off the farm is a fairly realistic and achievable goal, if one that would likely sacrifice some comfort for greater freedom (the farm does come with some very nice living conditions, after all), which is his prerogative.

What people tend to refer to with the expressed sentiment is that it doesn't seem that Miles is on that page. As mentioned in prior discussions on the matter, Miles seems to romanticize the idea of the wanderer, someone who goes where he pleases, when he pleases and everything else just kinda falls into place. This is seen sporadically in the comic and side-comics, and was directly expressed to some extent around the time where he finds the plane. "You were supposed to go to school, get a job, and fly around the world", "I want to be free, I want to experience life", and that little exchange where Tiare was interjecting midsentence: "I wanted to discover who I was and live a free-" "Life away from work and responsibility". This last one is not entirely reliable given Tiare's obvious animosity towards Miles, but the characterization does line up reasonably well with what he expressed in the old Learning Experience comic, so it's not exactly out of left field.

It is that particular attitude that people are addressing when they're saying Miles needs a reality check and a taste of what "real" freedom looks like. Not life/work/his fate outside of Las Lindas, but the grittier side of a life that he had apparently romanticized.
 

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...Best I can tell, nobody's forgetting it. I don't think anybody's saying that Miles's options are "stay on the farm or be homeless". On the contrary, a job off the farm is a fairly realistic and achievable goal, if one that would likely sacrifice some comfort for greater freedom (the farm does come with some very nice living conditions, after all), which is his prerogative.

What people tend to refer to with the expressed sentiment is that it doesn't seem that Miles is on that page. As mentioned in prior discussions on the matter, Miles seems to romanticize the idea of the wanderer, someone who goes where he pleases, when he pleases and everything else just kinda falls into place. This is seen sporadically in the comic and side-comics, and was directly expressed to some extent around the time where he finds the plane. "You were supposed to go to school, get a job, and fly around the world", "I want to be free, I want to experience life", and that little exchange where Tiare was interjecting midsentence: "I wanted to discover who I was and live a free-" "Life away from work and responsibility". This last one is not entirely reliable given Tiare's obvious animosity towards Miles, but the characterization does line up reasonably well with what he expressed in the old Learning Experience comic, so it's not exactly out of left field.

It is that particular attitude that people are addressing when they're saying Miles needs a reality check and a taste of what "real" freedom looks like. Not life/work/his fate outside of Las Lindas, but the grittier side of a life that he had apparently romanticized.
But who to say thst his life will end turn out that way. As long as he understands the risk its ultimately his life to live.
 

Radagast

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But who to say thst his life will end turn out that way. As long as he understands the risk its ultimately his life to live.
That's just it, though. He hasn't given any indication that he actually understands the risk, much less that he'd be willing to accept it. Which is where the criticism comes from. There's a reason that the phrase "reality check" keeps on being brought out.

Reality Check - Noun, informal.
Something that clarifies or serves as a reminder of reality often by correcting a misconception